My Body Is Not Public Property

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I want to talk about something other than how objectified and sick I’m still feeling over that whole “let’s make womens’ bodies public property so we can grope them” thing. Someone go read my “Planet of the Ood” essay and engage me in polite conversation. Or think up another topic you’d like me to post about, and I will.

Meanwhile, I am still upset and hurt, so I’m trying to make myself feel better by thinking (well, writing) aloud about the issues this brings up for me.

* [info]kita0610 wrote a poem that is amazing and wonderful. Even if you’re sick of this topic, you should read the poem, because Kita made something awesome out of it all.

* I’m thinking about wearing one of these pins at DragonCon. On one hand, I don’t want to wear anything related to this fiasco; on the other hand, Project Back Each Other Up is awesome. We’ll see.

* This post from [info]synecdochic gave me a lot to think about regarding the difference between “sex-positive” and “getting-laid-positive.” (Not sure I agree with everything there, but she makes a lot of good points.) One of the things that really stands out to me is the inherent flaw in the idea that empowered female sexuality = letting strangers grope you. Isn’t that just reinforcing the belief that female sexuality is inherently passive? I mean, I’m sure that some women do get off on being groped by strangers, fine, but I think most of us consider “empowered sexuality” to mean something different than “letting someone grope me.” It’s such a clueless male perspective on female sexuality. And the whole idea that what women were getting out of this was getting their self-esteem validated because a stranger wanted to grope them–haven’t we been fighting for ages not to base our self-esteem solely on what other people think of our physical appearances? (And then [info]theferrett had the gall to say in the comments that he doesn’t do “pity gropes,” so it’s really only about boosting the self-esteem of women who fit into his view of what’s attractive).

* I would hate to be a female celebrity. What they get isn’t different from what the rest of us get, but they have to deal with a far more intense version of it–the idea that any time they go out in public, no matter what they’re doing, their bodies are public property and open to comment and criticism from anyone who sees them. While reading through the “Boob Project” debates, I was linked to paparazzi photos of Emma Watson’s crotch and Billie Piper’s breasts. (I wish I hadn’t clicked, and am not linking.) And the debates were not “WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH THE PAPARAZZI?” or “What the fuck is wrong with us that we think we have any right to see this?” but rather “Should she shave?” and “Are her breasts ’saggy’?” and “Is she pregnant?” (I realize that ohnotheydidnt and the like are cesspits of the worst examples of humanity, but they still embody an attitude that way too many people hold.)

And then I clicked a link to one of those paparazzi sites that basically consists of (95% female) celebrities doing stuff like walking their dogs, buying their kids ice cream, and taking out the trash, with big red arrows photoshopped in, and text making judgments about their breasts or asses. It’s completely sick, not just that this happens but that it’s so widespread and accepted. Can’t a woman want to do a job in front of the public (like acting, which actually requires hard work and talent to do well), without giving up all right to privacy? (As much as South Park has been annoying me lately, they had it absolutely right with that Britney Spears episode, which was really about how dehumanizing our culture is toward female celebrities, and how the society that participates is complicit.)

* One thing this debacle made me realize is that a lot of men (even apparently decent ones) assume that if a woman is “dressed to impress” (however the hell you define that) in public, she’s doing it for the admiration of random men she encounters.

I know that some women do enjoy getting the attention of strangers, and that’s perfectly fine. But. You cannot assume that every woman wants that. I was thinking about my own experiences, and literally, I have never once in my life dressed up because I wanted the attention of a stranger. (In fact, I’ve always had to weigh the fun of getting dressed up against the fact that I didn’t want strangers bothering me.)

Every time I’ve gotten dressed up, it’s been because:

* I thought the clothes were pretty.
* I thought I looked nice in the clothes, which gave me more confidence.
* It was a kind of roleplaying–I could pretend to be someone completely different from my usual self.
* I didn’t want to get ridiculed for being a loser. (This was in high school–kids mostly stopped teasing me [to my face] when I went from ugly grunge nerd to confident goth bitch.)
* I wanted to share the fun of getting dressed up with friends. [info]dizenchanted, [info]xssy, and I used to dress up for concerts together in the most ridiculous outfits, because we were 15, 16, 17, just learning how to wear club clothes and makeup, and it was just … for me at least … an innocent fun thing to do with my friends. It wasn’t much different from dressing up as a princess when I was five–it was about us and how we felt, not about the people observing us.
* I wanted the social benefits that come from presenting as attractive and female. (Like being served a drink quickly instead of waiting a half hour while the bartender chats up the pretty girls in the low-cut tops. I realize this is problematic and feeds into female objectification, but sometimes you just want to get the damn drink in a hurry so you don’t miss the band you came to see.)
* I wanted a specific person to notice me. Not “any random dude off the street” but someone I already knew and was interested in.

A bunch of reasons, basically. None of which in any way involve “trolling for men.” (The phrase makes me throw up a little bit in my mouth.)

And yet strange men assume that I’m doing it for them. They stare at me blatantly, with their jaws hanging open, or with an expression in their eyes like a tiger evaluating its prey. They tell me I look hot, or that they want to fuck me, or they tell their friends they’d “like a piece of that,” or they follow me for a few blocks until I hide in a store and call my mom in tears. Even the ones who apparently think they’re being polite, who just make a comment like “you look beautiful,” are hurting and objectifying me.

It takes me out of my own headspace, where I am simply in the process of going somewhere or doing something or mentally analyzing the latest TV show I saw, and tells me instead that I’m an object, that I’m on display, that I need to think about how I look, that my own business is less important than the visual I present to the world. That merely by going out in public during the process of living my life, I cease to be a person but a decoration, open to comment and complaint and proposition from the people around me.

If I could, I’d make my appearance visible only to those I chose, but unfortunately you can’t friends-filter the whole world.

And then I keep getting told that I shouldn’t go places where I’m going to attract attention, when the reality is that strangers shouldn’t assume that they have any right to comment on my appearance. I shouldn’t have to change my life when they are the problems.

I’m a single woman. I like to travel and I like rock music. I shouldn’t have to put my life on hold until/unless I have a partner, or have to beg and cajole friends to go with me, or give up my interests if I can’t get someone else to come along. If I want to take a bus to Atlantic City for a Nine Inch Nails show, I should be able to do so without fear of being raped. If I want to be in the front of a Velvet Revolver mosh pit, I shouldn’t have to leave a position I’ve been holding for hours because a strange man won’t stop groping me. If I’m walking through a strange neighborhood in Brooklyn in the middle of the night, it’s because a bunch of my friends live out there and I’m on my way to the subway after a birthday party. Not because I’m “asking for” the attention of strange men.

Just… I don’t know how else to say it. My world doesn’t revolve around strangers’ sexual desires. My body is not public property. It’s also not public display. It’s not for anyone else to touch or comment on. If you don’t know me, it’s inappropriate to ever say anything to me about how I look. It may seem harmless to you, but it’s one more item added to the list of things that tell me I’m not a whole person, but an object on display for the pleasure of the world.

Current Mood: sad emoticon sad

Tags: gender issues
  1. 14 Responses to “My Body Is Not Public Property”

  2. 10zlaine on April 25, 2008 5:04 pm | Link

    The same time as boobgate, elyse sewell posted in her LJ a funny couple of pictures. Well, funny in that she finds this whole business just as repugnant and has to deal with it at the semi-celeb level…but go check it out for a sad, knowing chuckle, and especially the link at the bottom of the post to an older entry.

    http://elysesewell.livejournal.com/82681.html

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    rusty-halo on April 25, 2008 5:54 pm | Link

    Man, that is insane. I just don’t understand why men do things like this. Seriously, does it ever work?

    (PS: Got your email. Contemplating best response.)

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    10zlaine on April 25, 2008 6:02 pm | Link

    yeah, someone blasted her (anonymously, of course) in the comments for not appreciating korean culture and she is a bitch (naturally) for not thinking the guy a nice polite man since it’s perfectly acceptable to do that in korea. fuck that.

    ps: no reply required unless you want to, jussouknow…

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    rusty-halo on April 25, 2008 6:06 pm | Link

    Oh, for christ’s sake. “Culture” is not an excuse for harassment. People of every culture do it, and people of every culture also object to it. (Hollaback explains it better than me.)

    I know you already know this. Just venting.

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  3. Meltha on April 25, 2008 5:23 pm | Link

    You know, this whole debacle really bothered me on some very basic level that is difficult to explain and took me a long while to process. On one hand, it did appear that these men weren’t touching women who didn’t want to be touched, but on the other hand, they were asking to touch women who they didn’t even know. And I think it was the reasoning behind last thing that bothered me most. They didn’t see women passing by in the hallway as people but as a collection of parts they wanted to touch as though they were cars to be taken out for a test drive.

    What bothered me deeply was the concept that I feel lurking behind a large number of media things sometimes, that a very large percentage of men would be perfectly happy to have a prostitute, cook, and maid in their lives and would then have no further use for females in general. It’s like the getting dressed up = wanting male attention thing. Men, essentially, rarely do get dressed up for any other reason than to impress a woman, and I think some of them sort of put their motivations on us because they want everything we do to be about them. Otherwise, we’d be people, and they wouldn’t know what to do about that because it would just be too weird for many of them.

    I’ve met a very, very few men who actually do get what it’s like being female, and all of them have been men who have been in extraordinary circumstances. A college friend, for example, had been molested when he was a child, and he completely understood the concept that there are times when even looking at a woman’s body in a particular way was completely inappropriate, and he would call guys on it when they were being oblivious to the effect of what they were doing.

    But yeah. The majority of guys do not comprehend what it’s like to be judged on their appearance, and more specifically their sexual desirability, when they walk into a room of complete strangers.

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    rusty-halo on April 25, 2008 5:52 pm | Link

    I don’t think men can understand what it’s like. They always seem to see it in terms of individual incidents (that “aren’t such a big deal”), and fail to understand that it’s our entire lives, every single day, adding up to tell us that we’re objects and that our bodies are not our own. You’re right that a very small number of men may have had experiences that enable them to empathize, but the vast majority just have no concept of it at all.

    I remember a line in The Handmaid’s Tale that really got to me. It’s been a while, so I don’t recall the exact quote, but it was about how on some level the protagonist’s very liberal and well-meaning husband enjoyed her being deprived of her power and autonomy, because it meant that he got to be the protector and the one in charge. Even in the “nice guys,” there’s a sense of them getting off on the power they have over us, because they’re the ones who can protect us from the “bad guys.”

    To men, we’re never just people. We always exist in relation to them.

    On one hand, it did appear that these men weren’t touching women who didn’t want to be touched, but on the other hand, they were asking to touch women who they didn’t even know.

    Yeah, exactly. And even if they only asked women who were wearing a button of some sort, it still explicitly turned the convention into a place where the question was “Is she wearing a button or not?” (aka “Do I have a chance of groping her ‘boobs’ or not?”) Every single woman, regardless of whether or not she had a button, was suddenly explicitly defined in terms of whether her body was available to men. That assumption underlies the world we live in anyway, and most of us are struggling against it, so making it even more institutionalized is not progressive; it’s going backwards, and it impacts every woman there regardless of whether she chooses to participate. Some of us are just there to argue about Doctor Who, dammit.

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  4. Kita on April 25, 2008 7:26 pm | Link

    Ferret face is the biggest fuckwit that the Lord ever gave a penis.

    Pity gropes are the only way assholes like him ever get laid.

    Man, I will never stop being angry over this.

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    rusty-halo on April 27, 2008 4:26 am | Link

    I know, me too. It brings up so many issues. And there is just so much objectification and male privilege absolutely dripping from his post. It’s going to negatively effect my convention experiences for the near future at least. >:(

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  5. Diana on April 25, 2008 10:04 pm | Link

    You know, I’ve been thinking about this Open Source Boob Project thing all week because it’s really upset me. The fact that there are people out there who don’t see that asking women to wear a button so a guy won’t ask to feel your boobs is wrong disturbs me. But, you know, I’m glad that this has women talking about these issues. I’ve read some moving and insightful posts that you and others have linked to, and I think it’s helped me assess my issues with all this.

    I’m still going to try my hardest to enjoy Dragon*Con despite this drama. Unfortunately, I have big boobs and I hope I don’t asked by anyone as my slap-reflex will increase. Like you, I wear clothes for me; not to get a significant other. It’s ridiculous that I should feel nervous that people might ask to touch my boobs simply because I like to wear V-necks. People don’t behave that way in a store or other public places, and I don’t need that kind of behavior in places where I go to have fun. >__<

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  6. Jerry on April 25, 2008 11:15 pm | Link

    At times, I don’t entirely go for feminist arguments, because I think sometimes they ask men to not be men. This is not one of those times. The right of men to pursue women is one thing. The right to squeeze boobs like it’s a video game is not. And I don’t think any convention should have to welcome that kind of coercive behavior.

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    rusty-halo on April 27, 2008 3:29 pm | Link

    Yeah, this idea is so above and beyond acceptable that it just amazes me that this guy somehow thought it was a brilliant idea and the perfect thing to broadcast all across the internet.

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  7. jwaneeta on April 27, 2008 4:09 am | Link

    I tried to forget this bullshit, but:

    Hi from a fellow congoer
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    Cyn Martin to theferrett
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    Hi! I’m a working professional in comics and animation. I read your recent Livejournal post with interest, to say the least.

    Are you planning on attending San Diego Comic Con International? If so, what name are you registered under? I’d like to let the ConCom know you’re coming.

    Thanks for the info!

    Best always,

    Cynthia Martin

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=cynthia+martin+comics&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f

    (also posted all over the freaking obscure fandoms. Sigh. I think if we’re still not over being angry, maybe we shouldn’t be.)

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    rusty-halo on April 27, 2008 4:25 am | Link

    Go you.

    If I was this guy, I would never show my face at a con again.

    (And if I ever see this guy at a con…)

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    jwaneeta on April 27, 2008 4:45 am | Link

    Will he have the guts to tell me his name? That’s the question for the weekend. I’ll be watching my inbox. Magic 8-Ball sez no.

    I’m not an aggressive person at all, but I would *love* to meet this
    cretin face-to-face.

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